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Euro Party juhend
LaurenciusX Laup 20 Dets 2008, 12:19
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I'll add to this over the week, expert advice from warlocks (all lvls really), warriors (50 and higher), bard and clerics over 70 would be apreciated. I'll make visual guides for each class later, depending how lazy i feel
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Introduction:
Welcome to europe party play, if you took the time to read this you are looking for advice on how to play your role or maybe just curious how other people party, or maybe just come to mock me. Ahead i'll discuss the goals of the party, the different types of parties, and guide for each role in a party (with guest expertise).
Ever notice how some people in a party die more often then others, despite who they are with, as a cleric/wiz, warrior, past wizzard/bard, rogue, and noob warlock (i won't count what limited experience i have with them as much, as I can't really offer any advice), I've been able to from a objective stand point been able to observe many forms of parties at various levels and see what others have done that have been smart and stupid, or maybe even something one might not think about to until watching from an outward perspective.
No 2 parties are ever the same, even with the same people in the same place, every ones mood is different every day, and if some one is tired or pissed off they may not be at their peek for party grinding, and by proxy their unhappiness can even effect your own mood. Different creatures require different techniques and formations.
For example if you are grinding on the rock golems a static formation is a bad idea, the party needs to be a little more spread out and mobile, because of the creatures penetration aoe, where as for penon its better for the party to remain still and only the puller should be moving about.
Remember the goal of the party is to gain maximum xp in the time you have, efficiency is important, dying is not efficient, letting your team mates die is not efficient either, even if they suck try to compensate for their weaknesses but not at the extent of dying alot yourself.
Party Types
Typical (2 warriors, 2 bard, 1 cleric, 3 wizzard, , or 2 wizzard and a warlock)
This is the most common ideal party Divided into the various roles
Main Tank, The Defensive warrior their job is to defend the ints, as well as grab mobs off of the puller.
(coming soon, advice on main tank)
The Puller, The Lure, The offensive warrior, their job is to go out from the grinding location and grab mobs on to them and take it back to the party
(coming soon, advice on puller) Important note, just because a mob is following you doesn't mean you have its agro make sure to taunt every party mob or hit them with a skill besides sprint assult, when you return to the party making sure this has happen will prevent a mass of mobs leaving you to attack the cleric or wizzards, I try to do this out of range of the party vision because untill higher lvl they don't always know to wait for you to capture every mobs agro, this is a good way to save lives and you'll be praised as a good warrior for it even as a simple of a task as it is
The Wizzards, Nukers, The fire power of the group, their job is to deal the damage and kill the mobs.
(coming soon, advice on wizzard) Alot of wizzards can be over zealous or too focused, The priority comes to saving ints always, even as a wizzard you need to look out for your fellow ints, if you see a mob coming to attack the cleric or another int and it is with in your power to kill it take the shot, the cleric can't have tons of mobs going after them, and kill these loose mobs will make the job easier for the tank, and will improve your survival and the survival of your team. If you can't kill it but its going after an int use charged wind now, this is the time to use it, not only will it save them but its one hell of a light show and the tanks will normally notice.
Once you get earth barrier, don't be afraid to use it, try using it on every lure its cool down is short enough you can almost always do it, I don't understand why too many wizzards hardly use it or only use it when they get scared, use it almost as often as you can its cheap short enough cool down, there should be no hesitation, don't wait for things to become a problem and take the precausion before hand.
Life Control/LifeTurnover, you want to use this, but be warned if your warriors are lack luster, you might want to air on the side of caution and leave it off unless you are fenced or qoutaed.
Remember the warriors need to secure their agro before you go attacking, they can't be blamed for your over zealousness, a good practice is to wait for the warriors to come infront of the party as they stop moving and start tanking, then its typically safe to go, if they are doing their job right it should be safe to use aoe attacks (area of effect), and using them makes the party more effecient it would take ages to kill a lure if no one used their aoe nukes.
Warlocks, Debuffers, Their job in the party is put debuffs and damage over time curses on mobs, they make killing ptc and party giants alot faster then if you just had another wizzard, they make the mobs hit for less meaning its easier on the tanks and cleric, and they lower their defenses making the wizzards hit the mob for significantly harder (at gens i can nuke with meteor for like 7k plus the int buff from cleric, 9k, plus a bards magic dance, 11k, with a warlock debuff 18k) that warlock makes a huge difference, plus their dot (damage over time) skills can bring a party mob to its knees very quickly. As you can see they are a very nice aide to the party. I how ever do not have much expericance as one and can't really offer good advice, i'll see Astra would be willing to assist my guide.
Bards, Buffers/Mp healers, their job is to buff the party and keep their mp up at all times, during very intense lures the cleric can expend more mp then xl pots can keep up with, the bard is very vital to surviving these tough situations.
(coming soon, advice)
Now back when i used to bard, I was the mp bard not exactly the battle bard type, regardless of what was going on in the party, unless there was a break, I could keep a mana cycle on every member of the party at all times by myself. Its easy enough, start with yourself. MANA CYCLE YOURSELF FIRST. Start with yourself the first 6 names in the party, yourself again, the next 6 people in a rotating fashion, after you get to the bottem just count from the top again, and make sure you get yourself every 7th cycle, congradualtions with out much effort the entire party should have mana cycle on them at all times. (Except don't go chasing the lure, if he isn't close enough for the cycle skip him for now and catch next time) No matter what the party is doing if you are full int, and have up to date harp and skills, they'd have to try to run out of mp.
Next comes your tambours and dances. There are 3 main tambours, guard tambour(reduces the entire parties physical dmg taken by a certain percent), mana tambour(reduces magic dmg taken), and despite its name counts as a tambour: hit march (increases your entire parties hit ratio by a certain amount, this means they will be more likely to hit on the higher end of their damage range), Clout march is the same thing as hit march only more powerful. Something confusing about tambours is how the skill is described, but basicly it used mp over time to keep it running, aslo if you get hit there is a chance your tambour will go away, there is a passive to decrease the chances of loosing it however, but if you are doing your job as i described above you should never get any agro.
The Dances, why was it important to mention hit/clout were technically tambours? Because of the Dances. Alot of noob bards are confused that they can't use their dances, well the answer is simple you need a tambour present in order to use a dance. If you use a dance any tambour you yourself is playing will be canceled, this means you have to have another bard in order to use a dance. However this doesn't mean the party can't have another tambour say you want hit march and gaurd tambour, simply have the first bard cast his tambour, then do your dance, then you can use your tambour, the party will have 2 tambours and 1 dance going meaning the party will have increased dmg and defense by very good precents expessially at high lvls, lvl 90 dance of wizardry gives the party 38% magic damage increase (thats down right awesome).
The battle bard takes a whole different type of play, which will require you to stuff like mana wind in order to deal dmg and mp the party, the lazy way keeps you safe, and the parties mp full and their buffs never going down, you getting hit and loosing your gaurds tambour at the wrong time could mean some one will die
Cleric, The Healer, its too late at night to finis this one, i could say alot about cleric
I'll add to this over the week, expert advice from warlocks (all lvls really), warriors (50 and higher), bard and clerics over 70 would be apreciated. I'll make visual guides for each class later, depending how lazy i feel
________________________________________________________________________
Introduction:
Welcome to europe party play, if you took the time to read this you are looking for advice on how to play your role or maybe just curious how other people party, or maybe just come to mock me. Ahead i'll discuss the goals of the party, the different types of parties, and guide for each role in a party (with guest expertise).
Ever notice how some people in a party die more often then others, despite who they are with, as a cleric/wiz, warrior, past wizzard/bard, rogue, and noob warlock (i won't count what limited experience i have with them as much, as I can't really offer any advice), I've been able to from a objective stand point been able to observe many forms of parties at various levels and see what others have done that have been smart and stupid, or maybe even something one might not think about to until watching from an outward perspective.
No 2 parties are ever the same, even with the same people in the same place, every ones mood is different every day, and if some one is tired or pissed off they may not be at their peek for party grinding, and by proxy their unhappiness can even effect your own mood. Different creatures require different techniques and formations.
For example if you are grinding on the rock golems a static formation is a bad idea, the party needs to be a little more spread out and mobile, because of the creatures penetration aoe, where as for penon its better for the party to remain still and only the puller should be moving about.
Remember the goal of the party is to gain maximum xp in the time you have, efficiency is important, dying is not efficient, letting your team mates die is not efficient either, even if they suck try to compensate for their weaknesses but not at the extent of dying alot yourself.
Party Types
Typical (2 warriors, 2 bard, 1 cleric, 3 wizzard, , or 2 wizzard and a warlock)
This is the most common ideal party Divided into the various roles
Main Tank, The Defensive warrior their job is to defend the ints, as well as grab mobs off of the puller.
(coming soon, advice on main tank)
The Puller, The Lure, The offensive warrior, their job is to go out from the grinding location and grab mobs on to them and take it back to the party
(coming soon, advice on puller) Important note, just because a mob is following you doesn't mean you have its agro make sure to taunt every party mob or hit them with a skill besides sprint assult, when you return to the party making sure this has happen will prevent a mass of mobs leaving you to attack the cleric or wizzards, I try to do this out of range of the party vision because untill higher lvl they don't always know to wait for you to capture every mobs agro, this is a good way to save lives and you'll be praised as a good warrior for it even as a simple of a task as it is
The Wizzards, Nukers, The fire power of the group, their job is to deal the damage and kill the mobs.
(coming soon, advice on wizzard) Alot of wizzards can be over zealous or too focused, The priority comes to saving ints always, even as a wizzard you need to look out for your fellow ints, if you see a mob coming to attack the cleric or another int and it is with in your power to kill it take the shot, the cleric can't have tons of mobs going after them, and kill these loose mobs will make the job easier for the tank, and will improve your survival and the survival of your team. If you can't kill it but its going after an int use charged wind now, this is the time to use it, not only will it save them but its one hell of a light show and the tanks will normally notice.
Once you get earth barrier, don't be afraid to use it, try using it on every lure its cool down is short enough you can almost always do it, I don't understand why too many wizzards hardly use it or only use it when they get scared, use it almost as often as you can its cheap short enough cool down, there should be no hesitation, don't wait for things to become a problem and take the precausion before hand.
Life Control/LifeTurnover, you want to use this, but be warned if your warriors are lack luster, you might want to air on the side of caution and leave it off unless you are fenced or qoutaed.
Remember the warriors need to secure their agro before you go attacking, they can't be blamed for your over zealousness, a good practice is to wait for the warriors to come infront of the party as they stop moving and start tanking, then its typically safe to go, if they are doing their job right it should be safe to use aoe attacks (area of effect), and using them makes the party more effecient it would take ages to kill a lure if no one used their aoe nukes.
Warlocks, Debuffers, Their job in the party is put debuffs and damage over time curses on mobs, they make killing ptc and party giants alot faster then if you just had another wizzard, they make the mobs hit for less meaning its easier on the tanks and cleric, and they lower their defenses making the wizzards hit the mob for significantly harder (at gens i can nuke with meteor for like 7k plus the int buff from cleric, 9k, plus a bards magic dance, 11k, with a warlock debuff 18k) that warlock makes a huge difference, plus their dot (damage over time) skills can bring a party mob to its knees very quickly. As you can see they are a very nice aide to the party. I how ever do not have much expericance as one and can't really offer good advice, i'll see Astra would be willing to assist my guide.
Bards, Buffers/Mp healers, their job is to buff the party and keep their mp up at all times, during very intense lures the cleric can expend more mp then xl pots can keep up with, the bard is very vital to surviving these tough situations.
(coming soon, advice)
Now back when i used to bard, I was the mp bard not exactly the battle bard type, regardless of what was going on in the party, unless there was a break, I could keep a mana cycle on every member of the party at all times by myself. Its easy enough, start with yourself. MANA CYCLE YOURSELF FIRST. Start with yourself the first 6 names in the party, yourself again, the next 6 people in a rotating fashion, after you get to the bottem just count from the top again, and make sure you get yourself every 7th cycle, congradualtions with out much effort the entire party should have mana cycle on them at all times. (Except don't go chasing the lure, if he isn't close enough for the cycle skip him for now and catch next time) No matter what the party is doing if you are full int, and have up to date harp and skills, they'd have to try to run out of mp.
Next comes your tambours and dances. There are 3 main tambours, guard tambour(reduces the entire parties physical dmg taken by a certain percent), mana tambour(reduces magic dmg taken), and despite its name counts as a tambour: hit march (increases your entire parties hit ratio by a certain amount, this means they will be more likely to hit on the higher end of their damage range), Clout march is the same thing as hit march only more powerful. Something confusing about tambours is how the skill is described, but basicly it used mp over time to keep it running, aslo if you get hit there is a chance your tambour will go away, there is a passive to decrease the chances of loosing it however, but if you are doing your job as i described above you should never get any agro.
The Dances, why was it important to mention hit/clout were technically tambours? Because of the Dances. Alot of noob bards are confused that they can't use their dances, well the answer is simple you need a tambour present in order to use a dance. If you use a dance any tambour you yourself is playing will be canceled, this means you have to have another bard in order to use a dance. However this doesn't mean the party can't have another tambour say you want hit march and gaurd tambour, simply have the first bard cast his tambour, then do your dance, then you can use your tambour, the party will have 2 tambours and 1 dance going meaning the party will have increased dmg and defense by very good precents expessially at high lvls, lvl 90 dance of wizardry gives the party 38% magic damage increase (thats down right awesome).
The battle bard takes a whole different type of play, which will require you to stuff like mana wind in order to deal dmg and mp the party, the lazy way keeps you safe, and the parties mp full and their buffs never going down, you getting hit and loosing your gaurds tambour at the wrong time could mean some one will die
Cleric, The Healer, its too late at night to finis this one, i could say alot about cleric
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